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Post by Scott on Jul 11, 2018 23:09:42 GMT
See Thru Stone/Wood/Metal
Casting time: 6 rounds
Range: Self
Duration: Concentration
MP cost: 2mp
Stone/Wood/Metal within 30m becomes invisible to you.
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Post by logan9a on Jul 11, 2018 23:38:45 GMT
Not sure how to feel about this one.
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Post by Scott on Jul 12, 2018 16:06:56 GMT
It sounds fun, but probably not overpowering unless you're a professional spy or something. Plus you get to mess with people when they become disoriented and start running into walls and such.
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Post by logan9a on Jul 12, 2018 16:57:44 GMT
All of the PC's are kind of professional spies.
Not sure how you'd start running into walls with a concentration type of spell. Even if we did eventually have this one - which I'm still not convinced we should - I think it would be a higher level than you think it would be (over 6th tier) and we do need low level ones to finish out the tree.
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Post by Fantômas on Aug 7, 2018 11:03:36 GMT
Maybe cut the range you can see through down to 10m? Are the stone, metal, wood completely invisible or are the outlines?
If the wall/ceiling was painted or the floor carpeted/tiled etc, I'm assuming it would not go through this? ie I don't think this is all that powerful, as it would not work with most buildings.
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Post by logan9a on Aug 8, 2018 0:50:48 GMT
"If the wall/ceiling was painted or the floor carpeted/tiled etc, I'm assuming it would not go through this?"
Possible but then it feels a bit nit picky. Figure out if the building is painted, etc?
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Post by Fantômas on Aug 8, 2018 6:02:19 GMT
Majority of buildings would be painted if not plastered in the zones we've been in. Only time not would be either something very frontier or a ruin or the like. Possibly something like the SA would have bare stone walls.
Think about where you are sitting now. Do you want the spell to penetrate the walls/ceiling/floor around you? If so then it needs to be reworded a bit to make it clear that items (eg paint, plaster, carpet etc) that are part of the wall/floor etc, it will go through.
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Post by logan9a on Aug 8, 2018 8:31:35 GMT
See Thru Stone/Wood/Metal (Credit: Scott, Pete)
Casting time: 6 rounds
Range: Self
Duration: Concentration
MP cost: 2mp
Stone/Wood/Metal within 10m becomes invisible to you. Note that paint, tile, etc (anything not made of stone/wood/metal) blocks this spell making it useless for spying into most buildings.
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Post by Scott on Aug 8, 2018 18:48:09 GMT
I wasn't going to be nitpicky, but I guess that keeps it low-powered.
If we're going to be nitpicky, I would count most tile as stone.
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Post by Fantômas on Aug 9, 2018 2:46:11 GMT
If we're going to be nitpicky, I would count most tile as stone. True. Plaster could technically be considered stone as well, being that it's primary materials are types of stone. Does the spell allow you to see through all three materials at once, or is it three spells for three trees? If separate, is there a meta spell that would allow you to combine two? |
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Post by logan9a on Aug 9, 2018 8:31:01 GMT
Due to needing to figure out what is what, I'm thinking 'fuck this spell'.
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Post by Fantômas on Aug 9, 2018 10:11:48 GMT
Due to needing to figure out what is what, I'm thinking 'fuck this spell'. The same could be said about any of the spells that effect a certain type of material. Just leave it up to the person casting the spell to justify why it would work. |
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Post by logan9a on Aug 9, 2018 11:22:08 GMT
Aside from the stone/wood/metal spells, what other spells do we have that only effect a certain type of material?
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Post by Scott on Aug 9, 2018 17:59:56 GMT
If defining "stone" is a concern, I would define it for the spell tree as "solid object composed of non-metallic minerals". So not just natural occurring rocks, reconstituted and/or composite forms, such as concrete, ceramics, porcelain, etc. Plaster and drywall should count, they are mostly gypsum. A similar argument can be made for glass, but that is probably stretching it too far. Also the "solid" requirement, so powder/dust won't work, and I would put the boundary at the consistency of clay as the minimum. Logan may be thinking "I don't want to keep track of what everything ever is made out of", but really it's not so bad. It doesn't need to be a part of module preparation since it doesn't matter unless someone asks. If we're going to be nitpicky, I would count most tile as stone. True. Plaster could technically be considered stone as well, being that it's primary materials are types of stone. Does the spell allow you to see through all three materials at once, or is it three spells for three trees? If separate, is there a meta spell that would allow you to combine two? It's 3 spells for 3 trees. The premise here was that we could make 3 trees at the same time with the same spells (that affect different materials) with only slight tweaking. |
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Post by logan9a on Aug 9, 2018 18:25:34 GMT
"Logan may be thinking "I don't want to keep track of what everything ever is made out of", but really it's not so bad. It doesn't need to be a part of module preparation since it doesn't matter unless someone asks."
This does not calm my concerns. I would rather say 'natural unaltered stone, wood, metal' than worry about what stuff is made of.
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