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Post by Scott on May 20, 2020 16:11:33 GMT
I am gathering intel and speculating about the Blue Mage. Please correct me if anything here is proven wrong.
Who is BM?
Dr James Morton, servitor of Blue AI?
Where is BM?
Allegedly in MMO world. Presumably in or near "the maelstrom".
(Has anyone been to MMO recently? Do we have a map? I found a thread about a map for MMO in the archive, but the link was broken.)
Why is BM doing what he is doing?
No idea. Maybe he is insane? Or does not realize the consequences?
What should we do about it?
Nuke from orbit?
(Does full tech still work in MMO? Do we need to also recover the Unicorn Eye?)
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Post by PotatoJedi on May 20, 2020 16:53:37 GMT
BM = Blue Mage. We believe he originally came from the ice tower in MMO Land. Though not confirmed. Why is he doing what he is doing? <Redacted because of theory coming from Spoilers> He has taken the unicorn's eye in order to create the Logrus, which is honestly something we would like to happen. Sandman told us he thinks the Blue Mage might be trying to create the Logrus somewhere in a "fantasy realm". MMO Land is what first sprang to mind for me. Then again, no confirmation. Some more information on him can be found in this post by Kinley: heroiccthulhu.proboards.com/post/40450/threadAs well as this post, which may or may not hold any value: heroiccthulhu.proboards.com/thread/5306/armor-brand
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Post by Scott on May 20, 2020 18:10:40 GMT
BM = Blue Mage. We believe he originally came from the ice tower in MMO Land. Though not confirmed. Does BM do water magic and ice magic? Are those considered the same thing? He has taken the unicorn's eye in order to create the Logrus, which is honestly something we would like to happen. If imbalance is the problem, should we just destroy the pattern in the village? And if a Logrus is created before the Pattern is destroyed, wouldn't that balance it? And if the Pattern is destroyed and then a Logrus is created, wouldn't it only be as imbalanced as it is currently? Sandman told us he thinks the Blue Mage might be trying to create the Logrus somewhere in a "fantasy realm". MMO Land is what first sprang to mind for me. Then again, no confirmation. I wasn't paying attention to bigger picture stuff at the time, so I don't remember where I heard it, but I remember hearing about the BM being in the whirlpool (or maelstrom?) in MMO and I figured that must be where the Logrus is going to go. Do we still need to find the horcruxes or is that not an issue because of <redacted>?
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Post by PotatoJedi on May 20, 2020 18:31:17 GMT
BM = Blue Mage. We believe he originally came from the ice tower in MMO Land. Though not confirmed. Does BM do water magic and ice magic? Are those considered the same thing? I don't know. We know he is a master of water Magic. We also saw, a while ago when we first checked back to see what the ice tower was up to, that there was a gate above it. We think it might go to the elemental plane of water but that's just a guess. He has taken the unicorn's eye in order to create the Logrus, which is honestly something we would like to happen. Mostly right. Destroying the pattern will destroy the very fabric of our little "sandbox", to my understanding, so having that happen is a big no-no. I'm not sure if the Blue Mage realises this or if he does and has a plan that involves him surviving and then being able to make the Logrus. In the ideal scenario we would have both the Pattern survive and the Logrus be created, thus creating balance. Sandman told us he thinks the Blue Mage might be trying to create the Logrus somewhere in a "fantasy realm". MMO Land is what first sprang to mind for me. Then again, no confirmation. Quite possibly, we're not sure. The whirlpool/maelstrom might just be one of the Blue Mage's lairs (or his main one, I don't know). We just saw the Joker flying in that direction but we don't know what happened to him specifically, or if he actually went into it. I believe we still need to find more of them, yes. Anything to further weaken the Blue Mage is of benefit, especially if we ever end up confronting him and trying to take him down.
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Post by Scott on May 20, 2020 22:08:01 GMT
We also saw, a while ago when we first checked back to see what the ice tower was up to, that there was a gate above it. We think it might go to the elemental plane of water but that's just a guess. We should add finding where that gate goes to the list of things to do. (Off-topic, but I'd really like people to pool their knowledge and create a grand unified bubble map of the known multiverse with all of the gate connections between zones.) Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there 2 Patterns? The first one was underneath Amber Castle and is still there AFAIK. I thought the second one was created by one of our group (McKay? Fulton?) It first appeared in the saloon by the Firewall and then moved to The Village somehow. Any ideas? We could check out Gothic San Fran if a link to Morton seems plausible.
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Post by Fantômas on May 20, 2020 23:20:40 GMT
Wasn't the Blue Mage the individual who sealed the gate between Burlington and MMO land?
I believe the Blue Mage and Dr Morton and two separate people, drawn from the backgrounds/time streams/memories of two different people. Morton is linked to blue AI. Don't know if Blue Mage is.
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Post by PotatoJedi on May 21, 2020 10:52:08 GMT
Yes, the blue mage is the one who sealed the gate between Burlington and MMO Land.
The Pattern in Amber is in an entirely different "reality", so to speak. It has no bearing on our little universe – at least, nowhere near as much as the Pattern that we have in the village (which, as you quite rightly mentioned, was originally in the last chance saloon). There are far more than 2 Patterns altogether. I think I know of at least 4 others, though I've never been there personally. They are all in somewhere in Amber except for our one.
I have no idea where to look for the rest of the soul pieces. The only reason we even know that we have one of them is because Sandman told us. We can start speculating where others might be but they'll be nothing more than shots in the dark.
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Post by Scott on May 22, 2020 14:28:39 GMT
Who created the Pattern inside the sandbox and why?
Why do we assume that the sandbox can handle both a Pattern and Logrus? We assume that balance needs to be restored, but the only balance that we know works is having neither Pattern nor Logrus.
What all zones do we know BM to have operated in? Just MMO and Burlington?
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Post by PotatoJedi on May 22, 2020 16:10:21 GMT
Who created the Pattern inside the sandbox and why? heroiccthulhu.proboards.com/thread/4888/new-pattern is one of the sources. I'm sure there were others posted way back. Long story short, Ghostwheel manipulated us into doing it by fucking with our universe and leaving little hints here and there, along with Justice who was also helping for some reason. Eventually Doc, Raslen and I believe Mackay found the jewel of judgement. Doc is hazy on where he found it. Raslen believes he found it when they teleported inside of Ghostwheel using the book in Smurfville. I don't know – I wasn't there. Mackay then attempted to create the new pattern and died. Doc was able to bring him back after discovering that his soul was trapped inside the jewel of judgement or something like that, and he managed to get him out and into a new body. Then for some reason they decided to return the jewel of judgement to King "Random". Why do we assume that the sandbox can handle both a Pattern and Logrus? We assume that balance needs to be restored, but the only balance that we know works is having neither Pattern nor Logrus. We have been told so by Ghostwheel in so many words. <redacted>. It's too late for us to un-Pattern our universe. Doing so will end badly, so we have no choice but to balance it out with a Logrus lest things continue to spiral downwards. What all zones do we know BM to have operated in? Just MMO and Burlington? Not sure. Old Burlington and MMO are confirmed. We know he has ties with Burlington 2.0 since he sent Sandman there. Considering the village are worried that he will be launching an imminent attack to try and destroy the Pattern, he probably has operations in many different zones. Just speculation.
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Post by Scott on May 22, 2020 21:16:04 GMT
We have been told so by Ghostwheel in so many words. <redacted>. It's too late for us to un-Pattern our universe. Doing so will end badly, so we have no choice but to balance it out with a Logrus lest things continue to spiral downwards. This "Ghostwheel" character sounds untrustworthy.
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Post by PotatoJedi on May 22, 2020 21:35:34 GMT
Welcome to what we've been dealing with for the past few years or however long it's been. We hope you enjoy your stay.
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Post by PotatoJedi on Jun 4, 2020 11:39:35 GMT
Some more information we found in some books in Library Land. Don't know how useful any of this is, but here you are.
Blue Mage: all-powerful mage who shall overcome adversity against him and build a new utopia which will last 1000 years. It is said that the Destroyer of Worlds doth strive against him but in the end the Water Mage shall wash away the evil for the only one that the water mage fears is the man made of dirt who shall make his name mud, amen. - Different book: BM is the vampire of chardice (spelling?). Also a mage dressed in all blue. He terrorises the city of Chardice until he was eventually felled by a vixen, an overly hot vampire killing lady with her magic stake glow stick.
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Post by M. on Jun 4, 2020 23:18:23 GMT
Blue Mage: all-powerful mage who shall overcome adversity against him and build a new utopia which will last 1000 years. It is said that the Destroyer of Worlds doth strive against him but in the end the Water Mage shall wash away the evil for the only one that the water mage fears is the man made of dirt who shall make his name mud, amen. *Static* An impish voice talks, "Is this meant to be some kind of prophecy? Could the 'man made of dirt' reference the Sandman, his realisation of how the BM had used him and his eventual betrayal of the BM? If so, it might mean the Sandman still has a pivotal part to play." *Static*
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Post by thad on Jun 5, 2020 1:15:40 GMT
or the universe has a really stupid sense of humour. like... really really stupid
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Post by PotatoJedi on Jun 5, 2020 10:38:54 GMT
Fuck if I know. It might not even be referencing the same BM. Certainly shares a lot of similarities though. It might be that other guy in regards to the "man of dirt" that it's referring to. The Desert Mage or whatever. Doc knows about him. Ask him.
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