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Post by Fantômas on Feb 25, 2019 5:33:04 GMT
I've a few experiments with Trumps to get a better idea of what wee can and cannot do.
Can trumps be created of locations or just people - I've been able to create Trumps of locations.
Can a background person (Elwin is this case) use a Trump - No
Can you transport someone who has not walked the pattern through a trump of a location - attempted this with the twins, attempting to have them come with me through a Trump I'd created of the Australian Embassy. I was not able to pull them through at this stage. It felt like it might be possible, just not something I've gained the ability to do as yet. Need to try this also on someone in our group who has not walked the Pattern as yet.
Can you create a workable Trump of someone who has not walked the pattern - I was able to create a Trump of Elwin. I was not able to establish a full connection to him, just talk to him via the Trump.
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Post by Jana on Feb 25, 2019 7:12:10 GMT
Also please don't trump call people when they're on a recon mission... It really isn't- Great stealth tactic.
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Post by PotatoJedi on Feb 25, 2019 12:12:23 GMT
Look I didn't know that it created a hologram all the time. I thought I could just speak inside his mind. Now we know. And besides, it worked out didn't it?
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Post by Jana on Feb 25, 2019 18:03:52 GMT
Riiiight...
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Post by Fantômas on Mar 3, 2019 4:10:27 GMT
- I've not been able to Trump to a location outside the firewall and from outside within. We were able to do this previously, so looks like the firewall has been hardened against this. - We found locations either side of the firewall distinct enough to create trumps of them. I now have a trump of either side. Freddy has a Trump of the Canada side. With our contact with others of our group this should be sufficient to allow easier access to allow others to create their own Trumps if they wish.
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Post by Fantômas on Mar 10, 2019 22:58:45 GMT
I notice we have a new member to the group. Has anyone tried to bring them or one of our existing members who have not walked the Pattern through a Location Trump?
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Post by PotatoJedi on Mar 11, 2019 11:28:30 GMT
Doc and I tried it before. Does not work if you haven't walked the Pattern.
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Post by Fantômas on Mar 11, 2019 11:29:43 GMT
Doc and I tried it before. Does not work if you haven't walked the Pattern. Who did you try it with?
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Post by PotatoJedi on Mar 11, 2019 11:33:29 GMT
The other Doc. Doc Number 2/Yang. He hadn't walked The Pattern yet.
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Post by sheila on Mar 14, 2019 2:27:37 GMT
I was on a stake out while Freddy and Glen went off to get the worlds' most conspicuous sleeping bags. They used a trump of me to get back quickly. I felt a call and answered it, then knew who it was, they started to appear, so I went off to a safer spot. That broke the connection without anyone seeing. They called again, I answered, knew who it was, and then separately "pulled" them through to me. Thanks for sharing what happened, it made me think.
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Post by Scott on Mar 15, 2019 16:40:21 GMT
- I've not been able to Trump to a location outside the firewall and from outside within. We were able to do this previously, so looks like the firewall has been hardened against this. - We found locations either side of the firewall distinct enough to create trumps of them. I now have a trump of either side. Freddy has a Trump of the Canada side. With our contact with others of our group this should be sufficient to allow easier access to allow others to create their own Trumps if they wish. So if you wanted to trump from the Embassy to Amber Castle and back, you'd want 4 cards. The Embassy, Canada side of Firewall, Amber side of Firewall, and Amber Castle. Right? ... Can you make a trump inside the firewall? Can you make a location distinct enough to create a trump of it by putting up landmarks? If a card ceases to function due to the appearance of the location changing, can you fix it by going there and trying to make the appearance match the card again?
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Post by PotatoJedi on Mar 15, 2019 19:25:26 GMT
Yes to needing 4 trumps if you want to easily travel to and from Amber. I suggest using our loaned house from King Random instead of the castle.
No idea if you can make a Trump inside of the wall of fire… Nor how that would work if you could. Experiment?
A location doesn't necessarily need to be "distinct" although I suppose in a sense it does. Your trump painting needs to be good enough that when someone sees it they can go "ah, I know where that is" assuming they have seen it before. I see no reason why you can't add things like monuments to the environment to make it more distinct. It just needs to stay that way and not change much.
Not sure about changing and then unchanging the environment of a painted Trump. It may render the Trump completely useless even if you reverted it back later, or it may work as you imagine. I'm inclined to believe that you can change it and it will work – it makes logical sense to me. Best way to test this would be to Sketch a not-so-important area and make a trump, then change the area so that it's "different" and then change it back and seeing if the Trump still works.
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