PotatoJedi
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Post by PotatoJedi on Aug 15, 2019 20:15:44 GMT
UPDATE:
I saw a painting of an eye in Vorus painted on the ruined wall of the Chapel of Contemplation which looked a bit like the Eye of Providence except instead of a pyramid-shape surrounding it, it was 3 “Y”. As I stared at it, it started to bleed and I saw a vision of a unicorn with a white, beautiful horn spiralling. One of its eyes was missing with blood running down the side of its head. I then saw King Random lean forward and say “this is the worst atrocity in the history of Amber! Blood shall answer it”. It looked as if he was looking at me and blaming me for all this.
“Blood” appears to be significant in some way. References to it include: “Blood is the rose of mysterious union” found written in red spray paint in the B&B in Burlington next to the grandfather clock after it “reappeared”; the bleeding eye in the Chapel of Contemplation; the bleeding Eye of the unicorn in my vision; a “bleeding ceiling” which dripped right into my eye when I looked up in the “haunted” house in Vorus; the Kingdom of Blood in Tri-Kingdoms.
Second vision: when I looked into a mirror and saw the blood that dripped down my eye, I had another vision. This time I had a vision of a horse’s eye but it was really white and pure, and I saw the horse’s eyesocket with blood coming down. I was then on all fours running through a forest screaming in pain and rage.
I later also heard a voice say "Again, it is the prophecy". Not sure if in my head or not. Going to assume it is.
I have seen the Triskelion symbol appear in 3 different places now. Not sure if related. One was in a cave (Beastkin), one on the Chapel of Contemplation and one above the door to a “haunted” house (both Vorus).
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Post by Fantômas on Aug 15, 2019 23:14:48 GMT
Back in Zog days, Doc, Alex & myself saw the Triskelion in MMOland, on a temple being used by a sect of goblins (we had been sent to take care of this sect by the main group of goblins). The temple had various pictures about Zogs generals. I think I posted about this at the time.
Didn't people also find references to blood in several places early on, in Burlington and other places (lyrics from a Doors song?)?
is the Triskelion related to the Tri-Kingdoms in some way?
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PotatoJedi
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Post by PotatoJedi on Aug 16, 2019 1:28:21 GMT
Yes, references to Blood seem to be popping up more frequently. "Blood is the rose of mysterious union" is the lyrics to a song by the doors – peace frog.
I don't know too much about the Triskelion symbol other than having seen it associated with some of Zog's minions in the past.
I'm starting to wonder if maybe Zog, or someone who works for him, has stolen the Unicorn's Eye. Or it may be signs of events to come. I feel paying King Random a visit and asking him a thing or two may be worthwhile. Not really a fan of talking to… well, anyone in Amber, really. It's more stressful than being in a fight with a horde of zombies. At least then you know where you stand – zombie bad. Kill zombie. Or run away. Either way, clear. Amber? No. Amber is about as clear as my old condom I was using for a while to keep my anal refresher in.
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Post by PotatoJedi on Aug 18, 2019 11:28:50 GMT
Slowly putting together the pieces…
I believe I've been tasked with creating the Logrus in our shadow to balance out the Pattern, the task which was originally given to Doc. Still not entirely sure who or what is in my eyes but I get the feeling it's something to do with Justice Swift. Lastly, "the eyes have it", I believe we now know what that refers to. When myself, Kinley and MacKay were once together, we found Fiona with her heart missing in some sort of strange cave. Stepping out of the cave with her on Kinley's shoulder, we saw giant alien-like creatures with really long legs acting as some sort of patrolling unit. We snuck past them and we saw a large Tower of Eyes. This tower, I believe, is where the Unicorn's Eye is being held. I do not recall if we went into the tower or a different tower, but at the top was a man with 2 goats next to him as his "advisers". He told us that what we were looking for was a large red fruit hanging from a tree and that we needed to cook it. He also asked us to get him a pack of cigarettes on our way back. We walked through some sort of town… it's all a bit hazy I'm afraid. I don't remember too much of it. But we found the fruit, cooked it and pulled out Fiona's heart from within it and stuck it back inside her. She was saved.
In any event, The Tower of Eyes seems to be a likely destination for our group next. But even if we managed to get hold of the eye, we still don't have anyone at a high enough level of shape shifting to be able to create a Logrus. So that's what I am currently working on. Well, that and trying not to lose my mind.
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Post by Fantômas on Aug 18, 2019 11:49:44 GMT
Would very much like to know what the prophecy Justice Swift is on about. It's a pity Justice Swift did not repeat it to us when he ripped up the Trump Card. Perhaps Justice Swift can have it carved in a wall in the Embassy or tell Aeolous or post it here... It's a bit hard to try and deal with a prophecy when the only two DORAs of our group that were there when it was supposedly told have not been about much.
And if the Tower of Eyes is where the object is and we get it, then what? None of us are in a position to walk the Logrus let alone create one. And where would we keep it until such time someone was ready and willing to risk it. That's assuming that that is the purpose of the object or what we are meant to do.
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Post by Jaypay on Aug 19, 2019 3:38:06 GMT
Would very much like to know what the prophecy Justice Swift is on about. It's a pity Justice Swift did not repeat it to us when he ripped up the Trump Card. Perhaps Justice Swift can have it carved in a wall in the Embassy or tell Aeolous or post it here... I've seen that bloke post in here before... Let's have it, Swift! I got an idea how to find you now, you little bastard - don't make me come give you a haircut!
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Post by PotatoJedi on Aug 21, 2019 21:56:42 GMT
Forgot to mention: A kid, possibly being mind controlled by Justice Swift, came in and tore up the Trump of King Random that I had. He said that we must fulfil the prophecy and that if we contact the older Amberites they’ll kill us. I was phasing in and out of reality when this occurred so perhaps those who were present could elaborate on what happened specifically.
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Post by PotatoJedi on Aug 26, 2019 12:41:50 GMT
<This particular post was meticulously written with Freddy's eyes closed. Good thing he can touch type>
My theory as to what is happening…
For a while, the “pocket shadow” that we are in was somewhat stable. No universe-imploding things happening or any “prophecies” that needed to be fulfilled. Sure, some zones may have bad things going on in them, but it was generally isolated to that zone. Then, all of a sudden, “Random” “loses” the jewel of judgement and our pocket shadow starts going tits up. The colour red starts appearing all over the place and we start getting little hints as to what “needs to be done” from Justice. Simultaneously, Zog is trying to come into our shadow and take over. Yet more hints were dropped as to how to stop him from Justice – we do so. The jewel of judgement – we found it and then used it to create a Pattern in our shadow. Everything “goes back to normal” all nicely and we are happy for a while. Doc gives the jewel of judgement back to Random.
Cut to: now. Our pocket shadow seems to be going tits up again. The wall of fire disappeared. The pattern moved to the village. Nations at war. Me getting visions about the unicorn’s eye from Justice. Eventually finding out that we need to “balance” our universe by creating a Logrus. Sounds all too familiar.
My theory: the reason for us being here is to help Ghostwheel gain more power. For the first few years, nothing major (as in, universe breaking) was going on. We were mulling around becoming stronger and stronger as we discovered new and interesting places and people. Then, Ghostwheel feels we are ready. But they can’t create a Pattern or Logrus themselves (not sure why). Ghostwheel had by this point somehow either impersonated King Random or had someone/something impersonate him. We have already witnessed Justice possessing mind controlling capabilities on a kid in our zone – he may have mind controlled someone else and had them shape shift into Random. Or perhaps Random is just a shadow of himself which Ghostwheel can control. In any case, Random is Ghostwheel’s puppet. He “loses” the jewel of judgement in our universe and then tells Justice to “guide us” to it without making it too obvious that Ghostwheel is behind it. Meanwhile he purposely starts making our universe shitty in order to give us reason to try and fix it, lest we cease to exist or something. Of course, we do so. The pattern is now made and the jewel of judgement returned to “Random”.
Things stabilise for a while but not for too long. The wall of fire “disappears” – Ghostwheel possibly could not keep it up due to the Pattern pushing back against it. So, in order for the Amberites to not discover the Pattern in our pocket shadow, Ghostwheel moves it to The Village to hide it from them. Ghostwheel still wants more power so he sets up another elaborate scheme with Justice and uses me as “the chosen one” or some bullshit like that. He drops ever-increasing clues as to what needs to be done. This time, however, the universe going tits up is not necessarily due to his own choosing. This time it’s because of an imbalance – there is a yin but no yang. In order to fix this we must create a Logrus in our universe to balance out the Pattern (and subsequently, make Ghostwheel and/or his universe more powerful).
So what do we do? The way I see it we have two options. The first is the obvious – steal The Unicorn’s Eye and create the Logrus. The second – get rid of The Pattern in our universe. Somehow. And probably piss off Ghostwheel in the process. No Pattern, no unbalance. Anyone know how to do that?
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Post by M. on Sept 10, 2019 13:44:09 GMT
*Static*
An African males voice sounds out,
"Mr Kinley was wonderin' if someone could post the list of words we collected leadin' up to the fight with Zog, seems like a lot of those words on that list are bein' repeated on dis very topic, may 'ave some relevance."
"Oh, and Alex wanted me to mention, he does not hav' the sword any longer, he gave it to Doc."
*Static*
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Post by Fantômas on Sept 10, 2019 14:04:25 GMT
..."Mr Kinley was wonderin' if someone could post the list of words we collected leadin' up to the fight with Zog, seems like a lot of those words on that list are bein' repeated on dis very topic, may 'ave some relevance."... Assuming you mean the words on the Asylum walls - ot - to be - be dhlosu - should goz Zog dei - die illw - will eey - eye it - it adhossw - shadows eenprst - repents or present or serpent aeginr - regain eekss - seeks adeeginr - regained all - all its - its
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PotatoJedi
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Post by PotatoJedi on Sept 10, 2019 14:05:39 GMT
Zog seeks to regain its eye should it be regained all present shadows will die
Zog seeks to regain its serpent eye should it be regained all shadows will die
Were the most prominent answers.
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M.
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Post by M. on Sept 10, 2019 15:13:56 GMT
*Static*
Same mans voice from before.
"Indeed, a prophecy that still might 'old meanin' to this very day, Mr Kinley says"
*Static*
(queue Logan's dramatic music!!)
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Post by PotatoJedi on Sept 10, 2019 16:10:38 GMT
Did anyone investigate who wrote that message in the asylum?
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Post by Jaypay on Dec 4, 2019 22:24:40 GMT
I would appreciate it if everyone can post whatever information they have regarding the Pattern, Logrus, Amber, the universe, etc. We need to start consolidating our resources and information so we can better deal with whatever is going on. Some things to consider: - We are in a simulation created by Ghostwheel. GW is our father in your Amber family tree, not the question marks. -- Reasons why I think this: -- When we recently met Merlin, he referred to us as his grandchildren, but did so ironically. When I asked him who our father was, he was amused like I already knew and was pulling his leg. -- Moments later Merlin used a trump of GW to contact him and said "some of yours are here... they've gotten out of their box." Then GW appeared like a hologram. -- Prior to meeting with Merlin, I was experimenting with Clems and it seems to function like a software, with different levels of access, and certain features locked down by someone with admin access. Ex: "replicate barber pole". I asked GW, I mean, Dad, to give me access to replicate barber poles and he did, but not via Clems, he must have edited my config file. - Not sure what the purpose of the simulation is, but two possible theories are: it was created by GW to keep the Eyes away from Amber and the Courts. The other is GW can only index and simulate shadows and needs us to create a pattern and logrus to make it real. Or just the pattern, which we have, and now it's real, but imbalanced.
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Post by Jaypay on Dec 4, 2019 22:43:34 GMT
Something that makes me skeptical of the simulation in a box theory is the existance of the Golden Circle Trade Accord. (Factions allowed to trade with Amber)
For example, one member of the Accord is the Dryders, and they seem to live, or have a base, in MMO land.
Why would there be a trade agreement between Amber and beings that exist in Ghostwheel's "sandbox"?
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